Leaves look burnt

[DinaJean]

I still have not come up with an ID for this tree. Thought it was a callery pear, but no fruit. Tons of white fragrant blossoms in the spring. Thought it might be a hawethorne, dont know. Maybe I need to get an ID before I figure out the problem?

The tree is about 25 feet tall, healthy looking, except about 1/8 of the leaves are in the shape posted below. The rest of the leaves look fine.






Thanks in advance for any help.

[Newt]

I'm wondering if this could be an ornamental pear that doesn't bear fruit.* You may have to do more googling to see if that would fit.* If it's planted with the other fruit trees then it could be something else, but I suspect it's not a fruiting type.* It would be helpful to know what it is.

In looking at the top picture, do I see some type of blackened or swollen area on the twig to the upper right of the blackened leaf?

I did some searching and the symptoms look similar to early stages of fireblight.* Any trees in the area have the tips of their branches look burned and have a hook appearance?* Look especially at the twigs where you might see symptoms.
http://learningstore.uwex.edu/pdf%5CA1616.pdf
http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/path-ext/fa...d%20Shrubs.asp
http://soilplantlab.missouri.edu/pla...eases/pear.htm
http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/dp_hfrr/ext...lems/pseud.htm
http://www.caf.wvu.edu/kearneysville...ireblight.html

See if these sites help.
http://www.state.sc.us/forest/reftree.htm
http://www.fw.vt.edu/dendro/dendrology/idit.htm

Could this be a linden tree?* They have fragrant white flowers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilia

Maybe a Carolina poplar?
http://ohioline.osu.edu/b700/b700_20.html

Newt

[DinaJean]

Pretty sure it is a callery pear.

Found this link, what is your opinion?

Link : page: agebb.missouri.edu/.../fireblight01.htm

Here are a couple pix of the tree in March. Never seen it any other time of the year to confirm fall color, etc.*Only between this March and now.












P.S. I wonder how many pictures Photobucket will let me put in my albulm before they charge me?

[Newt]

You probably aren't going to like what I'm going to say, but here's my thoughts about this tree now that I see the entire tree.* The trunk structure is very poor where multiple trunks emerge from the ground and should probably be pruned to a single trunk.* With the structure I'm not sure if this tree is even worth keeping.

I'm not an expert on tree id but I'd like you to post some questions at this site where some arborists hang around.* I answer questions there too, but there are several folks there much more knowledgeable then me.* You can't post pics directly on the forum so you'll have to link to them.* I would suggest you have links to the pics you have posted here and ask them if they can id it, what is wrong with it and if it's worth keeping or should just be pruned.* You could title your post something like:
Need tree id and burnt looking leaves.*

Be sure to state where you are in your post as your location won't show when you post unless someone looks for it by clicking on your name.* You can even tell them Newt sent you.
http://www.treehelp.com/forum/forum/default.asp

Here are two other sites that might help with your id.
http://www.cnr.vt.edu/DENDRO/dendrol...eet.cfm?ID=132
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/pyrcal/pyrcal1.html

Here's the main page of the Univ of Conn site that you can use as a reference when you need it.
http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/index.html

Interesting article about ornamental pears.
http://www.emmitsburg.net/gardens/ar...ford_pears.htm

I'd love to know what they tell you.* I haven't been visiting there on a regular basis since I got sick so I don't visit there as often as I should.

Newt

[DinaJean]

QUOTE: "I'm not an expert on tree id but I'd like you to post some questions at this site where some arborists hang around.* I answer questions there too, but there are several folks there much more knowledgeable then me.* You can't post pics directly on the forum so you'll have to link to them.* I would suggest you have links to the pics you have posted here and ask them if they can id it, what is wrong with it and if it's worth keeping or should just be pruned.* You could title your post something like:
Need tree id and burnt looking leaves.* "

I joined and sent a message as you suggested. I will let you know the outcome.


QUOTE "Be sure to state where you are in your post as your location won't show when you post unless someone looks for it by clicking on your name.* "

Oops, forgot that part, I think I have ADD. But they will see from the link I posted to this post where I live, right?

QUOTE: "*I answer questions there too, but there are several folks there much more knowledgeable then me."

Are you an aborist? I want to know how you got so smart, I want to be that smart!* I wish I found this passion when I was younger, but its okay, I still got UMPHHH in me.

QUOTE "I haven't been visiting there on a regular basis since I got sick "

I hope everything is okay. :?

Oh yeah,

QUOTE "You probably aren't going to like what I'm going to say, but here's my thoughts about this tree now that I see the entire tree.* The trunk structure is very poor where multiple trunks emerge from the ground and should probably be pruned to a single trunk.* With the structure I'm not sure if this tree is even worth keeping."


Actually, I can take it. I have not become too attached to that tree yet. There are, so far, 4 definite trees I HAVE become attached to, that would hurt if you told me bad news. They are

1) My Tulip Polpar...apx 100 feet tall and 30 feet wide, nobody has ever pruned, so it is not messed up in any way. I know it is just a Poplar, but, OH HOW MAJESTIC!!!

2) The BIG Pecan Tree...apx 70 feet tall by about 60 foot spread. I could never even live long enough to see a tree grow that big! It seems very healthy and happy, although, it has had 3 large branches pruned off, dont know if it was done correctly, but the base and the bark look great AND it is forming pecans now as we "speak".

3) My Eastern Hemlock. I was told it was very old according to the diameter of the trunk, although it only stands about 25 feet tall. I think the top was taken out by a storm at one time, but it recovered nicely and it just has a cool shape and demeanor to it. I LOVE that tree!

4) and, believe it or not, the*LAST but ONLY FOR NOW, till I walk the property more often and regularly to discover what is out there, is a common PRIVET. BUT...the cool thing about this one is, it was probably purposely trained this way, because I have never seen another one like it and believe me, I have PLENTY to compare...It is weeping. Dave says it is weeping because it knows he is after it with the chainsaw. Ha Ha. But it is just so different, and that is what I AM ALL ABOUT. Anyways, the Privet got transplanted because IT WAS going to get plowed down by the new tractor, and FAITH, it is now sprouting green leaves all over, it made it! YAY.

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Anyways, as usual, so sorry to BABBLE....whewwwwwww

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Dina :)
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[Newt]

I went over there and looked at your post.* I had to giggle when you said "Newt sent me".* Yes, if they follow the link they will see where you live.

I'm not an arborist but I do love trees.* The reason I know so much is kinda two-fold.* I have always been interested in nature and was curious as a kid.* That kinda got me started.* Then life happened and there was marriage, kids, divorce, two and three jobs at a time, etc.* Then, 19 years ago the townhouse I was renting was sold and I had to move.* I hadn't done much gardening in the townhouse as the yard was the size of a postage stamp and I never seemed to have time.* When I moved in there my kids were 3 and 6.* When I moved out they were 14 and 17 and I rented this house.* I now had a yard, though small, to care for.* It had been neglected by the owner for years and he was originally from the UK, so he just threw seeds everywhere for stuff to grow.* I went to the library and got books so I could id what I had and try and make the place look nice.*

I rented the house for 13 years and then we bought it 6 years ago.* In the meantime I became disabled 17 years ago and started gardening as physical therapy.* Then my son bought me a computer one Christmas so it would expand my world.* I started answering questions on gardening forums and had loads of time to research the info I didn't know.* I was also an avid plant collector, love native plants, and planted and planted!* I attended some plant swaps and learned how to plant from seed to save money.

The illness I spoke of was a stroke I had in March.* Then I had surgery in May to unclog the artery in my neck and didn't get on the computer much for about 3 months.* I was very fortunate and wasn't paralyzed, but I couldn't speak well, suffered from confusion and couldn't type well.* I don't answer nearly as many questions as I used to and don't visit as many different boards yet either.* My speach and typing are almost back to normal, as is my physical strength.* Most folks can't tell this happened to me when they meet me now.* I just found out I may need another surgery.* :(* I'll know sometime the middle of next month.

Gosh, enough of my sob story!* Back to your trees!* Your favorites sound wonderful.* There's lots of tulip poplars here too and they can be quite majestic.

Anyway, let's hope those folks can tell us what's going on.

Newt

[DinaJean]

QUOTE "Gosh, enough of my sob story!"

I appreciate your sharing that all with me.* Keep me informed on the surgery situation if you dont mind. I will provide moral support for my garden buddy!

I'll let you know when they reply about the tree.

[Newt]

It looks like you already have 2 replies and they're just as stumped as I was.* I do hope J. Banks will answer.* He often gets it right on the first try and he's a certified arborist.*

Newt