2 weeds for id please

[SPOOK]

Pictures 1 and 2 are of a weed thats growing everywhere and cannot control. Can grow to about 4 to 5 ft tall of left unchecked.
3 and 4 appeared at the start of the year I though they may have been Foxglove and were silvery.

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http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i126/spookwoman/2.jpg
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[KarenZone3A]

pictures 1 and 2 are mint. cannot tell what type. very hard to get rid of as it spreads both by seed and underground root systems. relentless digging will eventually control it.
Make some tea!
Karen

[SPOOK]

Not mint no smell, i thought it might be comfry

[KarenZone3A]

hmm. square stems put it in the mint family. I'll have a look see again.

3 and 4 I believe are pulicaria dysenterica. (meadow false fleabane.)

[KarenZone3A]

No smell at all? or no "minty" smell.

[SPOOK]

Just a slight grassy smell and the stems are very square.

[KarenZone3A]

just to clarify, when you []crush or bruise []the foliage which would release the aromatic oils there is only a slight grassy smell to this plant?
the reason I ask is that I am certain that this plant, whatever it is, is a member of the mint family (which is a huge family) most members of this family are aromatic in some fashion. now that does not mean they smell "minty" like gum or toothpaste but rather are aromatic in some way.
Having said that, there are some members of the mint family which are not aromatic at all so this is why I am asking.where do you live? that helps as well.
Karen

[SPOOK]

Living in Ireland After you asked about the smell i went out and checked. there is a slight grassy smell. The roots are in clumps like other plants not like mint that go everywhere. Have mint in another area of the garden but i do not know where this came from all i know is it is growing everywhere and seems to spread through seeds rather than roots. I've never seen anything like it in all the places i've lived

[KarenZone3A]

Well you have me stumped. Silver Surfer? where are you? somebody else from the other side of the Atlantic?
Maybe a nettle of some kind then. they are members of the mint family and not aromatic.

something like hennbit or a deadnettle perhaps.
good luck.
Karen