vines that are growing on my trees

[rebajeanshanklin]

i have two trees that these vines are growing on. i haven't got a clue what it is or what they are. they might be the same thing but they might not

this is on the big tree

[rebajeanshanklin]

here's an up close of whats on the big tree

[rebajeanshanklin]

this is on the smaller tree. i couldn't tell but it might be something different

[Newt]

Your first 'vine' reminds me of a shrub that can grow like a vine.* It's called Euonymus 'Manhattan'.* In the third picture it's grown as an espalier on a trellis.* Not good for the tree and should be removed.* These were planted adnauseum where I live about 30 years ago and some have escaped.* There are many varieties of Eounymus and many of them are creepers and vine-like.
http://www.camberlygardens.com/shrub...uonymus-cu.jpg
http://www.camberlygardens.com/shrub...-Manhattan.jpg
http://www.camberlygardens.com/shrub...s-Espalier.jpg

Your second one has me puzzled.* It's not Virginia creeper, Poison ivy or Poison oak.* I've also looked at several others like hog peanut and it's not those.* How is this clinging to the tree?* Could it be sprouts from the base of the tree?* It reminds me a bit of Decumaria barbara, our native cousin to the climbing hydrangea.
http://inspirezone.org/hiking/climbing.jpg
http://www.gardenvines.com/catalog/i...ia_barbara.jpg

Any milky sap when you cut the stems?* I don't think this is a match, but I've eliminated some of the other jasmines.*
Confederate jasmine.
http://www.clemson.edu/hort/scmg/fam...asminoides.JPG

You can read about the other jasmines at this South Carolina site and maybe do a google image search using the botanical names.
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC1106.htm

Also do some looking through here.
http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook/trees/index.html#vines

Let me know what you think and we'll go from there.
Newt

[rebajeanshanklin]

the first one i think you got right, so its ok to leave the Euonymus 'Manhattan on the tree?

im not sure of the other, it could be a shrub i guess

the 2nd one's vine is really woody and its stem or vine is growing up in between the bark of the tree

[Newt]

It's not ok to leave the Euonymus 'Manhattan' on the tree.* If it's growing next to the tree and you really don't want it, I'd say to dig it out.

I can't think the second one is good for the tree either.* Do you need it there?* If not, I'd suggest you remove it, roots and all.

Newt